“The more abstracted the language, the easier it is to grasp; but with accessibility you lose a bit of control. Still, Leavitt says she thinks it’s a fair tradeoff. She figures the democratization of coding isn’t going to come from people learning on a command-line interface, but rather through platforms that make the act of coding less complicated. “Our whole thing is we want to make programming itself easier because programming has to change for more people to be able to do it,” she says. “Instead of changing the people, we want to change the product.”